Volkswagen V5 Engine

"Vicente Esteve" (vicente-esteve) 03/16/2015 at 23:46 • Filed to: Volkswagen, V5

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This engine is the first V5 ever put in a production vehicle, and one you may haven't even heard of. Its essentially a narrow angle VR6 with 1 cylinder chopped off and repositioned. 5 cylinders are arranged in 2 separate banks, one with 3 cylinders and the other one with 2 (If numbers aren't your strong suit).

2.3 Litres of displacement capable of delivering 148 HP and 151 lb. ft. of torque. Reading further into VW engines from that time (Late 90's) I sort of understand the point of its existence. Something above the 1.8T which at the time produced 134 HP, but below the hot rod VR6 with 180 HP.

After the year 2000, the head was updated with twin cams and valves were injected to make it a 20 valve. All this raised power to 168 hp and 162 lb. ft. These engines powered both the Golf and the Bora, and makes my love for VW even more

CammedCTSV > Vicente Esteve 03/16/2015 at 23:59

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How the hell do you balance this???

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve 03/16/2015 at 23:59

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And what about the 1983 V5 diesel engine from Oldsmobile? Sure, it never made it into an actual production car, but would it not be the first?

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Vicente Esteve 03/17/2015 at 00:07

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looks like half of a 10 cylinder super car engine

NipperDawg > CammedCTSV 03/17/2015 at 00:08

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Carefully, with balance shafts. Smoother then a 4, with the fuel consumption of a 6.

Vicente Esteve > CammedCTSV 03/17/2015 at 00:09

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Weirdly, they are quite smooth engines.

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 03/17/2015 at 00:09

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I think this was first ever put into production. Will edit however.

Vicente Esteve > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 03/17/2015 at 00:10

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I know! And it sounds rather epic as well.

NotUnlessRoundIsFunny > Vicente Esteve 03/17/2015 at 00:33

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They actually made such a thing???

orcim > CammedCTSV 03/17/2015 at 01:51

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Kinda like the 5-step gait of an Icelandic pony - doable, but requires specific genetics to produce a smooth ride.

samssun > Vicente Esteve 03/17/2015 at 03:46

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And to think, if they just made it face the right direction, they could fit all the cylinders and not need all this goofiness. Longitudinal 3.2-3.6 liter VR6 with twin scroll turbo sent to an AWD system? Call it the Golf VR.

Vicente Esteve > NotUnlessRoundIsFunny 03/17/2015 at 08:31

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Of course! And there are AWD manual wagon versions of it!

Vicente Esteve > samssun 03/17/2015 at 08:31

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Golf R32?

samssun > Vicente Esteve 03/17/2015 at 19:04

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Transverse/Haldex instead of Longitudinal/Quattro. And no turbo.

Vicente Esteve > samssun 03/18/2015 at 08:31

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Ah! So you mean like the old Audi Quattro's?

Manuél Ferrari > Vicente Esteve 03/18/2015 at 15:13

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VW is like everyone's crazy uncle

samssun > Vicente Esteve 03/18/2015 at 21:36

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Sure, but with direct injection. Basically the S4 drivetrain in something S3 sized.

Vicente Esteve > samssun 03/18/2015 at 22:26

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RS3 is your answer!

samssun > Vicente Esteve 03/18/2015 at 23:32

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I'd happily take one (with stick), but it's still a sideways engine and FWD-based Haldex. Think how impressive the RS3 would be with the engine facing the right way, Quattro, a locking rear diff, and an extra cylinder.

Vicente Esteve > samssun 03/18/2015 at 23:33

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I think the 5 cylinder makes it special, but yeah it would be a beast!

samssun > Vicente Esteve 03/18/2015 at 23:47

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That's why my original idea was a VW with longitudinal VR6 and AWD, to preserve the hipsteriffic throwbackness of the Audi 5 cylinder, but give us a beastly alternative.

On an unrelated note, what do you think happens if you mount a twin-scroll on a 5 cylinder? And would you want 3 cylinders on the low volume / high velocity side for quick spool and only 2 cylinders on the high volume side? Or reverse that to prevent choking?